Comments on: Twitter killed the Status Star http://mbites.com/2008/01/10/twitter_killed_the_status_star/ Thu, 19 Nov 2009 07:49:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: How to win friends and influence Tweeple « Gary Andrews http://mbites.com/2008/01/10/twitter_killed_the_status_star/comment-page-1/#comment-1679 How to win friends and influence Tweeple « Gary Andrews Mon, 20 Oct 2008 22:01:08 +0000 http://dev.mbites.com/?p=117#comment-1679 [...] Twitter works best isn’t as a popularity contest or a desire to be loved, but, as Mike Butcher says: “It quickly became apparent that this was turning into the best use of Twitter of all. Not [...] [...] Twitter works best isn’t as a popularity contest or a desire to be loved, but, as Mike Butcher says: “It quickly became apparent that this was turning into the best use of Twitter of all. Not [...]

]]> By: Charles on… anything that comes along » How to be a good citizen of Twitter: it’s all about the links, baby (updated) http://mbites.com/2008/01/10/twitter_killed_the_status_star/comment-page-1/#comment-1667 Charles on… anything that comes along » How to be a good citizen of Twitter: it’s all about the links, baby (updated) Sun, 19 Oct 2008 20:42:32 +0000 http://dev.mbites.com/?p=117#comment-1667 [...] But I think that you’ll probably find after a while that you merge towards my thinking.. but as Mike Butcher points out, Twitter isn’t just a link exchange. It’s also about the conversation, which he [...] [...] But I think that you’ll probably find after a while that you merge towards my thinking.. but as Mike Butcher points out, Twitter isn’t just a link exchange. It’s also about the conversation, which he [...]

]]> By: Julian Bond http://mbites.com/2008/01/10/twitter_killed_the_status_star/comment-page-1/#comment-993 Julian Bond Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://dev.mbites.com/?p=117#comment-993 Twitter is confusing because<br />Twitter is confusing because it blurs the boundaries. Some times it feels like Micro-blogging or micro-publishing. (one to many) Then it's about pinging your friends (one to few). Finally it's almost like group discussion or IRC 2.0 (few to few) except it's hard to tell who's listening and the conversations often appear to be one-sided. I do wish there was something that was a cross between IRC/Skype Group chat and Twitter following/followed by where the groups were formed on the fly but Twitter exposes the logical flaw in that because you often only see one side of the conversation. In the end Twitter is just not very good for conversation. But this does seem to be a need because people keep trying to use it for that. Twitter is confusing because
Twitter is confusing because it blurs the boundaries. Some times it feels like Micro-blogging or micro-publishing. (one to many) Then it’s about pinging your friends (one to few). Finally it’s almost like group discussion or IRC 2.0 (few to few) except it’s hard to tell who’s listening and the conversations often appear to be one-sided.

I do wish there was something that was a cross between IRC/Skype Group chat and Twitter following/followed by where the groups were formed on the fly but Twitter exposes the logical flaw in that because you often only see one side of the conversation. In the end Twitter is just not very good for conversation. But this does seem to be a need because people keep trying to use it for that.

]]> By: DC Crowley http://mbites.com/2008/01/10/twitter_killed_the_status_star/comment-page-1/#comment-994 DC Crowley Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://dev.mbites.com/?p=117#comment-994 I went on twitter overkill<br />I went on twitter overkill for 3 days during Christmas. It made me new friends, but also lost me some. I just wanted to see what it was like to 'work twitter'. It does not work for me, and not for my followers (awful term by the way). So yeah! Thing is though, the way I surf changes completely every 2 years. How will we use twitter in 2 years time. It should in theory have 10 times the users... less tech oriented crowd. Who know where it is going. I went on twitter overkill
I went on twitter overkill for 3 days during Christmas. It made me new friends, but also lost me some. I just wanted to see what it was like to ‘work twitter’. It does not work for me, and not for my followers (awful term by the way). So yeah! Thing is though, the way I surf changes completely every 2 years. How will we use twitter in 2 years time. It should in theory have 10 times the users… less tech oriented crowd. Who know where it is going.

]]> By: Ian Betteridge http://mbites.com/2008/01/10/twitter_killed_the_status_star/comment-page-1/#comment-995 Ian Betteridge Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://dev.mbites.com/?p=117#comment-995 I've got a personal hatred<br />I've got a personal hatred of people who use Twitter as microblogging - one way "conversations" which are usually done by splitting a single coherent argument into a three-twitter rant. My partner said to me the other day that she was fascinated by the way that I use Twitter, because for me it's like "slow IM" - which is true, but it's a public conversation. Ironically, Jaiku is MUCH better for this kind of conversational approach - so I'm really hoping that Google actually do something with it soon. I’ve got a personal hatred
I’ve got a personal hatred of people who use Twitter as microblogging – one way “conversations” which are usually done by splitting a single coherent argument into a three-twitter rant. My partner said to me the other day that she was fascinated by the way that I use Twitter, because for me it’s like “slow IM” – which is true, but it’s a public conversation.

Ironically, Jaiku is MUCH better for this kind of conversational approach – so I’m really hoping that Google actually do something with it soon.

]]> By: Rochelle Grayson http://mbites.com/2008/01/10/twitter_killed_the_status_star/comment-page-1/#comment-996 Rochelle Grayson Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://dev.mbites.com/?p=117#comment-996 My sentiments exactly! In<br />My sentiments exactly! In fact, I wrote a <a href="http://rochelle.ca/2008/01/06/the-twitterati-experiment/" target=_blank>post</a> just a couple of days ago that spoke to this very point. As a result of this new conversation focus, I'm giving Twitter a second chance! My sentiments exactly! In
My sentiments exactly! In fact, I wrote a post just a couple of days ago that spoke to this very point. As a result of this new conversation focus, I’m giving Twitter a second chance!

]]> By: Mike Butcher http://mbites.com/2008/01/10/twitter_killed_the_status_star/comment-page-1/#comment-997 Mike Butcher Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://dev.mbites.com/?p=117#comment-997 Good points all. And yes,<br />Good points all. And yes, Jaiku held great promise but it does rather look now like the firm was acquired for its people and not the product. Good points all. And yes,
Good points all. And yes, Jaiku held great promise but it does rather look now like the firm was acquired for its people and not the product.

]]> By: Thayer Driver http://mbites.com/2008/01/10/twitter_killed_the_status_star/comment-page-1/#comment-998 Thayer Driver Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://dev.mbites.com/?p=117#comment-998 Good post Mike. I agree<br />Good post Mike. I agree with some bits, but not with others. I covered my thoughts on it a few days ago at http://thayer18.livejournal.com/1455.html (towards the bottom). I agree that the one or two @thayer's or @mike's are good fun and useful often if you've a question, but I think the use of Twitter for an actual conversation is just plain wrong. One thing I have noticed though since taking myself off it for a month for reflection, is that all social media should be used how the user defines. I don't think there is a one size fits all approach. I think it's down to the user to decide if they want to listen to people they're following have a 20 Tweet conversation, or not. It's also something that users of the medium need to think about, depending on if they want to attract followers as a marketing, pr or self promotion tool, or if they just want to chat with their mates all day. Personally, I can't stand following anyone who chats over 5 or tweets on Twitter, it gets an automatic cull from my list, best friend or not, I'm just not interested. Good post Mike. I agree
Good post Mike. I agree with some bits, but not with others. I covered my thoughts on it a few days ago at http://thayer18.livejournal.com/1455.html (towards the bottom).

I agree that the one or two @thayer’s or @mike’s are good fun and useful often if you’ve a question, but I think the use of Twitter for an actual conversation is just plain wrong. One thing I have noticed though since taking myself off it for a month for reflection, is that all social media should be used how the user defines. I don’t think there is a one size fits all approach. I think it’s down to the user to decide if they want to listen to people they’re following have a 20 Tweet conversation, or not. It’s also something that users of the medium need to think about, depending on if they want to attract followers as a marketing, pr or self promotion tool, or if they just want to chat with their mates all day.

Personally, I can’t stand following anyone who chats over 5 or tweets on Twitter, it gets an automatic cull from my list, best friend or not, I’m just not interested.

]]> By: justin http://mbites.com/2008/01/10/twitter_killed_the_status_star/comment-page-1/#comment-1003 justin Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://dev.mbites.com/?p=117#comment-1003 Twiiter seems to elicit<br />Twiiter seems to elicit polar opinions! I briefly blogged about how my friends still say 'why bother?' about twittering.. but head here to get the link for a brilliant TED presentation about how 'new forms of human collaboration have always created new forms of wealth' http://justinmcmurray.com/post/30715986. So I now say to these friends, wait and see. Twiiter seems to elicit
Twiiter seems to elicit polar opinions! I briefly blogged about how my friends still say ‘why bother?’ about twittering.. but head here to get the link for a brilliant TED presentation about how ‘new forms of human collaboration have always created new forms of wealth’ http://justinmcmurray.com/post/30715986. So I now say to these friends, wait and see.

]]> By: Murray Dick http://mbites.com/2008/01/10/twitter_killed_the_status_star/comment-page-1/#comment-1013 Murray Dick Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://dev.mbites.com/?p=117#comment-1013 Hi Mike, The main advantage<br />Hi Mike, The main advantage of Twitter over IM you mention has its downside too though. Most of us communicate with other people we know - and in journalism there are already a number of established, verifiable public figures who are using the service. But when you get into the realm of inviting others to view your conversations (and the ease with which an account can be created), the potential for hoaxing increases exponentially, not to mention the potential for un-edited content getting out there - which should send a cold draught down any news editor's neck. Twitter is like a hybrid discussion board/communication tool, with all the potential for antisocial anonymity that comes with the former. Hence why its now attracting Spam, not to mention large media organisations don't know what to do with the system yet, so use it as a supplementary RSS platform - just clogging the system up. It used to be the case that IM (or any other messaging service) tied you to your PC (and hence Twitter won out because it was compatible with mobile technology), but the new generation of 3G phones now have IM software as standard. Maybe its because most of my friends are luddites(!) but I remain to be convinced that Twitter is the all-singing all-dancing news essential many folk seeem to be saying, and am sticking to IM for now. Mur. Hi Mike,

The main advantage
Hi Mike,

The main advantage of Twitter over IM you mention has its downside too though.

Most of us communicate with other people we know – and in journalism there are already a number of established, verifiable public figures who are using the service. But when you get into the realm of inviting others to view your conversations (and the ease with which an account can be created), the potential for hoaxing increases exponentially, not to mention the potential for un-edited content getting out there – which should send a cold draught down any news editor’s neck.

Twitter is like a hybrid discussion board/communication tool, with all the potential for antisocial anonymity that comes with the former. Hence why its now attracting Spam, not to mention large media organisations don’t know what to do with the system yet, so use it as a supplementary RSS platform – just clogging the system up.

It used to be the case that IM (or any other messaging service) tied you to your PC (and hence Twitter won out because it was compatible with mobile technology), but the new generation of 3G phones now have IM software as standard.

Maybe its because most of my friends are luddites(!) but I remain to be convinced that Twitter is the all-singing all-dancing news essential many folk seeem to be saying, and am sticking to IM for now.

Mur.

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